Talk:List of giant sequoia groves

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References

I collected some additional refs but no time yet to pt them into wiki markup. Some are old but interesting for comparison (history, changes).

Willard, Dwight. 2000. A Guide To The Giant Sequoia Groves Of California. Yosemite Association, Yosemite National Park, California. (Includes data of NPS Inventory 1968-69 + 1976)

Fry, Walter, and John R. White. 1930. Big Trees. Palo Alto, Ca.: Stanford University Press. 114 p. [Early groves list with short descriptions; data on germination.]

Sudworth, George B. (1967). Forest trees of the Pacific slope. USDA Forest Service, Washington, DC. Call #: 634.90973 F948 1967

Cook, Lawrence F. 1955. Chief of Forestry National Park Service. The Giant Sequoias of California (United States Department of the Interior/ National Park Service/ United States Government Printing Office, Washington. P. 25.

Also important ist the Inventory of year 2000 by Bureau of Land Management, which is ref'd by many others. But how to point to a accessible data source ?

-- Rosetta

ps. I updated the following broken link from unknown contributor:

66.167.137.76 00:48, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC): A 1990's-era source for this list is the Mediated Settlement Agreement for Sequoia National Forest, Section B. Giant Sequoia Groves: An Evaluation (a PDF file). It identifies 73 groves and complexes, and notes that its list differs from Rundel and Willard, and why.

What's a grove??

The following unsigned comment seems to be fixed now by groves link. It's still a good question. -- Rosetta

The very question I came to the page with was not answered by the content on the page: What is a grove? Is it just an ad-hoc group of trees?

Table vs. list version

Three was a fragment pointing to this simple list version. Since it is exactly *not* a table version, it seems to be wrongly named. Or maybe my understanding is wrong ? It's also questionable if it will be kept in sync witht he main article. I wonder what to do with it. Is there a way to automaticly extract the table contents into text list ? -- Rosetta

/Table version

Redwood National and State Parks designation REMOVED

"Redwood National and State Parks" is a VERY specific name for only REDWOOD NATIONAL PARK and the three state parks (Prarie Creek, Del Norte Coast, and Jedediah Smith) that are located adjacent to (actually touching) Redwood National Park. This category is in error listing any parks beyond those three State parks in addition to RNP and will confuse readers. No other parks are included in the historic management compact that exists in between only the three listed state parks and Redwood National Park. Disagree? Call/Check sources related to Redwood National Park Headquarters in Crescent City, CA...Norcalal (talk) 07:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should ask this question on the talk page of Sequoia sempervirens which is another species in the coast ranges, aka 'Coast Redwood', and is not the 'Giant Sequoia' of the Sierra Nevada. --Rosetta — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.131.89.115 (talk) 05:29, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References needed for additional 14 groves

Ponderosapine210 expanded the list from 68 to 82 groves. The previous list of 68 was a union between Willard's 65 groves^[1] and Flint/s 65 groves^[2].

What is the source for the additional 14 groves? Could that source be added to the article? Thanks! — hike395 (talk) 09:09, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

~~No discussion after >2 years, so I'm going to revert to the old list. — hike395 (talk) 00:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)~~ This is a very complex issue with multiple RSes contradicting each other. Will investigate further. — hike395 (talk) 02:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Willard, Dwight. The Natural Giant Sequoia (Sequoiadendron Giganteum) Groves of the Sierra Nevada, California—An Updated Annotated List (PDF). USDA Forest Service Gen. Tech. Rep. USFS. pp. 159–164. PSW-GTR-151. Retrieved 2014-05-14.
^ Flint, W.D. (2002). To find the biggest tree.

[1] Willard, Dwight. The Natural Giant Sequoia (Sequoiadendron Giganteum) Groves of the Sierra Nevada, California—An Updated Annotated List (PDF). USDA Forest Service Gen. Tech. Rep. USFS. pp. 159–164. PSW-GTR-151. Retrieved 2014-05-14.

[2] Flint, W.D. (2002). To find the biggest tree.

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