Talk:Papal slippers
Did not wear them, but was buried in them?
[edit]- Pope Paul VI was the last pope to use the Papal Slippers in liturgical ceremonies. Pope John Paul I did not serve the papacy long enough to wear them. He was also the last pope to be buried in them upon death.
That does not appear to make sense to me. Was Paul VI or John Paul I the last pope to be buried in the papal slippers? Was John Paul I entitled to wear them for burial, but not in life? Or is this paragraph out of order? Jdavidb 15:58, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry. I think I clarified it in the article just now. The Papal Slippers haven't been banned and both Pope John Paul I and II could have worn them in life but chose not to. Pope John Paul I was buried in the Papal Slippers. Pope John Paul II made a personal decision not to wear it for himself in death, but left the question over its use by future popes to his successors. --Gerald Farinas 16:12, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This talk about resurrecting the papal slippers is completely erroneous. One must distinguish between liturgical sandals (shown in the photo with the liturgical gloves or chirotheca), papal slippers and papal shoes. See my article on papal shoes.
It is also incorrect to state that that Paul VI burried in papal slippers. Paul VI, John Paul I and John Paul II were all buried in ordinary papal red leather shoes. Pope Benedict is just following the immemorial custom of red shoes. He has not restored the velvet decorrated slippers. [[Athanasius 19:09, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)]]
Papal shoes needs merging into this article
[edit]Papal shoes was created today and should probably be merged with this article. --W(t) 17:38, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)
- If Papal shoes and papal slippers are two different things, maybe the merged article should be called something along the lines of "Papal footwear." Although, I suppose we ought to worry about getting the merging done first.... --User:Jenmoa 6 July 2005 01:51 (UTC)
- Why merge them? They are different. One was used as part of liturgical dress. One was not. One is used as part of secular everyday wear. One never was. One is linked to other liturgical vestments. The other never is. There should be a series of articles covering different aspects of liturgical and secular dress, both ancient and modern for popes. This merger mania is making a haymes of many articles. Instead of a clean link to a specific articles, links are increasingly linking to conglomerate articles where, somewhere buried in them is the actual bit of information that the relevant link is concerned with. We have already screwed up links to UDI by linking it to declaration of independence. Other articles are similarly screwed up by a 'chuck it all in together' merger. It is not necessary when different articles can link to related but different topics. And papal slippers, with their liturgical usage that is tied to gauntlets, vestments, etc, and papal shoes, with their secular usage, are different, simply related topics. So strongly oppose. FearÉIREANN
(talk) 6 July 2005 02:07 (UTC)
- Why merge them? They are different. One was used as part of liturgical dress. One was not. One is used as part of secular everyday wear. One never was. One is linked to other liturgical vestments. The other never is. There should be a series of articles covering different aspects of liturgical and secular dress, both ancient and modern for popes. This merger mania is making a haymes of many articles. Instead of a clean link to a specific articles, links are increasingly linking to conglomerate articles where, somewhere buried in them is the actual bit of information that the relevant link is concerned with. We have already screwed up links to UDI by linking it to declaration of independence. Other articles are similarly screwed up by a 'chuck it all in together' merger. It is not necessary when different articles can link to related but different topics. And papal slippers, with their liturgical usage that is tied to gauntlets, vestments, etc, and papal shoes, with their secular usage, are different, simply related topics. So strongly oppose. FearÉIREANN
Requested move 3 July 2019
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The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
Papal Slippers → Papal slippers – Noun. WP:CONSISTENCY per Papal apartments, Papal nobility, Pontifical academy, inter alia. PPEMES (talk) 16:01, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Support A search of Google Books shows that sources consistently fail to capitalize this term. Colin M (talk) 00:39, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
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