Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Writing systems

Naming consistency

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What should we call the study of writing systems?

(In a perfect world, I would post this here first, but the livelier WikiProject gets to host.)

Please take a gander at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics#What should we call the study of writing systems? and help me out with this question. Seems important! Remsense诉 09:02, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

If no one has outstanding objections, once I've finished a self-standing draft my plan is to

1. Make Grapholinguistics the top-level article, incorporating content from Graphemics and Grammatology
2. In line with Meletis & Dürscheid (2022), move Graphemics ⇒ Graphematics
3. Redirect Graphemics → Grapholinguistics
4. Redirect Grammatology → Grapholinguistics § Derrida and grammatology (or equivalent)

Remsense诉 04:22, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Grapholinguistics

I still crave others' input (of course), but as I've continued to survey the recent literature I think the best plan is to have Grapholinguistics as the top-level field, with Graphemics adjusted in scope as to be roughly analogous to the scope of phonology within the study of speech) is the best reflection of the field. I've started a draft article, and of course I invite people to contribute if they fancy. Remsense诉 12:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Uralic Phonetic Alphabet#Requested move 4 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Uralic Phonetic Alphabet#Requested move 4 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Web-julio (talk) 03:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Bashplemi lake tablet

I've recently created Bashplemi lake tablet. I thought y'all would be interested. Input welcome. Bondegezou (talk) 11:37, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Capitalization of letter names

Is there a standard for the capitalization of letter names. I see usage in Wikipedia is mixed. I was just at Khakassian Che and was surprised to see that it was capitalized in the article title and some places in the text. I changed the text to lower case, but wanted to check here before I pursue other changes. Thank you, SchreiberBike | [kbd]  22:59, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything exactly on that at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters. Of course, in English, letter names aren't usually spelled out, and look kind of odd when they are ("ay, bee, cee, aitch, double-you" etc)... AnonMoos (talk) 08:17, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

If I had to conjecture intuitively, in almost every case where a letter name could be written uncapitalized, it would be rather confusing, and unnecessarily so. Remsense ‥ 论 08:21, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

It's long been common to capitalize letter names in English for clarity, as Remsense notes. The OED uses lower case, and that's generally what I've seen in more serious literature, but more popular stuff often capitalizes.

For non-English letter names, I've usually seen them lower-case but set in italics as foreign words. — kwami (talk) 08:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

I think you're referring to letters which are being mentioned, not used (i.e. A, B, C, D) and not to actual letter names (ay, bee, cee, dee)... AnonMoos (talk) 15:37, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Both. Though capitalized letter names tend to be from older sources, e.g. 19th century; not so old as for all nouns to be capitalized, but old enough that capitalization was more pervasive than it is now. E.g. Goold Brown 1856: 10 The First Lines of English Grammar:

The names of the letters, as now commonly spoken and written in English, are A, Bee, Cee, Dee, E, Eff, Gee, Aitch, I, Jay, Kay, Ell, Em, En, O, Pee, Kue, Ar, Ess, Tee, U, Vee, Double-u, Ex, Wy, Zee.

[Though it's hard to tell if this is a case of list capitalization, Brown goes on to give capitalized examples in text, such as '[letters] are often used in lieu of [names], ... as, C, for Cee; F, for Eff; ...']

But yes, in more recent sources, letter names tend to be lower case, as in Waite, Prata & Martin 1984: 190 C (Computer Program Language):

Thus first C checks to see if ex and wye are equal. The resulting value of 1 or 0 (true or false) then is compared to the value of zee.

— kwami (talk) 19:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)