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Upper Valley (region centered roughly on Hanover, NH)

"Upper Valley" redirects to "Connecticut River". I don't know if there's an agreed-upon definition of this unofficial region straddling the VT/NH border and centered roughly on Hanover, NH. In fact, I came to wikipedia to find out that exactly. FWIW, the website of the Upper Valley Chamber of Commerce provides a list of about 50 "Upper Valley Towns": http://www.uppervalleychamber.com/uvtowns.html The Valley News, a newspaper based in Lebanon, NH bills itself as "the news source for the Upper Valley" and lists about 25 towns on this "about the Upper Valley" page: http://www.vnews.com/uppervalley.html

Should there be an Upper Valley page defining what towns are part of this region? Or a section on the Connecticut River page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabulous (talk • contribs) 18:58, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

At one time it was a separate stub but never developed into a full article. Other editors eventually merged them all into this article. I agree that the Upper Valley region is sufficiently well-defined and documented that it could use its own article. Have at it! --Ken Gallager (talk) 20:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

At very least, an explanation in this article as to what the Upper Valley is would be helpful. 76.118.43.224 (talk) 00:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've put an initial two sentences in the river geography section. Obviously much more can be said, and if the thing takes off, it would be good to move it to its own article. --Ken Gallager (talk) 13:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The structure of the article doesn't seem to follow WikiProject Rivers very well. Was this intentional? Student7 (talk) 23:53, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect it just grew that way. - Denimadept (talk) 23:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Should the beginning of the river be more specific?

This may seem as kinda stupid but I had a thought thinking that maybe the size of the river when it is small at 4th Connecticut lake should be detailed. It's just a thought B-Movie Fan (talk) 03:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Every river is tiny at the source; saying that it's tiny at the source doesn't tell the reader anything. If it had an unusual beginning - if, say, the river emerged from an underground cavern already three feet wide and flowing fast - then it would be worthy of mention. But otherwise, detailing it at the source is like saying "the water in the Connecticut River is wet". - DavidWBrooks (talk) 12:58, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree here that the "beginning" of the river doesn't hold particular importance. However, I feel as though the differences between the narrow northern regions and the wide mouth of the river could be better demonstrated with some graphics. When you're fishing the mouth of the river for Striped Bass it seems wild that the you could be wading for trout in Canada in the same body of water.Quesadi11a (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But that is the case for every single river in the world (unless, like the Merrimack River, it is said to "begin" at the confluence of two existing rivers). You can wade through the Nile and the Congo and the Amazon at some point near their start. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 12:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

wildlife or fish

I'm thinking of mentioning the wildlife or fish or something about up there. There are a couple of online sources about the 4th lake and it's fish and how it might affect the river and the other lakes. Or should any 4th lake info be on it's own lake page? It would make a bit more sense for the lake to have it's own page with lake info than the Connecticut River page. Because there is a pretty reliable source that mentions the types of fish, and the amount of water it discharges and how the lake affects the river, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by B-Movie Fan (talk • contribs) 16:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since this article is rather large, it might be appropriate to place the information in the Fourth Connecticut Lake section of the Connecticut Lakes article. Thewellman (talk) 16:30, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. thank you. :) B-Movie Fan (talk) 02:08, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sites of interest

I think the "sites of interest" section should be removed - wikipedia is not a travel guide, and this list is weirdly arbitrary and subjective. Any thoughts? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It's currently weighted to one specific area. Applying the same weight to the rest of the watershed would result in an extremely long list. The only way I could see keeping a list would be if it only referred to sites whose purpose was learning about the river itself. The only one in the list meeting that criterion right now is the Connecticut River Museum, so for now the list should go. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:57, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's gone. Let's see if anybody objects. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 16:38, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Only" state capital

Following a quick mention of this in the Wikimedia Discord, I'd like to discuss the sentence Hartford, the Connecticut River's second-largest city and only state capital, is at the southern end of this region on an ancient floodplain that stretches to Middletown. Focusing on the word only, it seems the sentence is referring to Hartford as one of the cities specifically along the river. So, assuming a source confirms this, this actually means that Hartford is the only capital city of any state that's along the river, which makes sense to mention considering there could otherwise be more than one of them. Thoughts? {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 03:21, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notified: User talk:2601:182:281:A1C0:0:0:0:A744, User talk:Trainsandotherthings, User talk:DavidWBrooks. {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 03:26, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see - my error. As the sentence stood I read it as being Connecticut's only state capital, which of course would be silly. Maybe we could tweak the wording so it's clear we're talking about the only capital of any state? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:15, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah the wording is a bit strange, what do you have in mind? {{u|Bsoyka}} ^talk 14:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I made an effort - what do you think? - DavidWBrooks (talk) 14:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, it seems like a stupidly trivial thing to say. Second largest city seems relevant, but most rivers have zero state capitals, and I'm not sure any have more than one. Why even mention it? --Jayron 32 17:16, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's certainly not necessary or important. As long as it's clear what is meant I don't think there's any harm. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:46, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of trivia, there are three state capitals on the Missouri River - both Dakotas and Missouri. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 19:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]