Talk:Karen Hughes

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KH for president

Any rumors regarding Karen Hughes for president in 2008? It's probably ridiculous but you never know.

Nor in 2016. Rags (talk) 21:22, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is Karen Hughes Gay?

She looks gay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.247.204 (talk) 00:46, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that she has been married since 1984, and gave birth to a son, of course PROVES nothing; it would, however, be a stronger indication of sexual preference than your subjective opinion of her appearance. Maybe you should read her book. Rags (talk) 13:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

POV

uh...this is all fairily non-POV. criticisms of hughes should be a in a separate section of the article and this should include any gaffes or percieved problems with her. this article should also discuss her current work, but that is not my main concern. the article needs to be written in a neutral manner and should explicitly discuss criticisms under a separate article section. --Ampersand 00:51, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly three years since Ampersand's comments, and the article still shows signs of bias, especially in the section on "2005 tour of the Middle East". --Anonymous 17 March 09

Biased Passage

Under "2005 tour of the Middle East", I took out the following passage: "Hughes states that in response to a question from an unnamed Egyptian opposition political leader about why President Bush mentions God, she responded "that our Constitution references 'One nation under God.'"1 Hughes also pointed out that most U.S. Presidents have mentioned God in their public speeches. However, the phrase "under God" does not appear in the US Constitution. The phrase does appear in the current version of the Pledge of Allegiance, to which the words 'under God' were added in 1954."

This is clearly an insignificant event in her public life and is a biased criticism of her probably meant to show her as being "stupid".

[These would seem to be posted by two different persons. It would be much clearer if you would each SIGN YOUR POSTINGS! It's really not difficult. If you have trouble remembering your name, just type "~" four times, and Mediawiki will do the rest. Like this: Rags (talk) 21:30, 11 November 2016 (UTC)][reply]

too many links?

also does wikipedia have a standard on when other articles should be linked? there are way too many links in this article, which detract from its readibility. --Ampersand 00:54, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Organized into sections

I've organized the page into sections, and added some content to the section on her current job as Undersecretary of State for Public Diplomacy. Comments? MastCell 22:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check for neutrality tag

This article seems to be biased - tendency to be a hack job on Hughes - e.g. out of context "SWAT team" quotation (Hughes was using the metaphor of SWAT Teams as in "Public Diplomacy SWAT teams" - a badly thought out/hasty metaphor but the quotation usage here makes her sound as she wants to use actual SWAT teams around the world. Also, the couple of minor "embarrassing" audience reaction quotes seem to have been weirdly inflated in importance - are these two quotes the only point of the 2005 Middle East Tour section? Totally blown out of proportion i.e. undue weight / POV—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.110.163.10 (talk) 23:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Needs cleanup and content

Hughes is a very prominent member of the Bush white house. Sufficient content is available to make a much more thorough entry. As for the cleanup, the quotations are provided without context. Hagan jared 00:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Complete Failure

Karen after completely failing with Middle-Eastern relations is going to retreat to her home in Texas where she will die and be remembered for her stupidity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.231.167 (talk) 04:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is really not a venue for personal attacks on Mrs. Hughes. Rags (talk) 13:33, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

POV edits

I've reverted a series of POV edits by User:BMATX, as did another editor before me. Since the username suggests a connection to Hughes' current employer Burson-Marsteller Texas, I asked the user to post requests or suggestions for non-trivial changes here, per WP:COI and WP:AUTO. Regards, Chuckiesdad/Talk/Contribs 20:23, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your insights and help. In an effort to improve the accuracy of the article, and in keeping with the transparency and encyclopedic nature that Wikipedia strives for, we would like to make edits to remove inaccuracies, and include additional information for accuracy. For example the following statement implies that Floyd resigned upon disagreement with his new boss. "In May 2005, the State Department Media Affairs Director Price Floyd, a 17-year veteran, resigned, citing difficulties and disagreements with the Bush administration and Karen Hughes." However, Hughes was not sworn in until September, when he resigned in May. BMATX (talk) 21:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)BMATX[reply]

I agree that this point is unclear. I looked at the reference (radio interview with Floyd), and he states he had met with Hughes several times. I added that statement, as well as noting that Hughes was still a nominee when Floyd left. I also corrected the chronological sequence of 2 paragraphs in this section. Regards, Chuckiesdad/Talk/Contribs 05:55, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Controversial Approach"

This section is among the worst I've ever seen on wikipedia, in terms of content, writing, organization, and POV. The second paragraph jumps into the middle of a story with no context at all. We get editorial comments like, "This was spin at its most frantic. But that was the Bush camp's story." And check this out:

"Hughes' "explanation" of Bush's exchange with Slater is one of the great examples of political spin. If I were teaching college students about spin, I'd make them study this episode. Hell, it's worth an entire class. Why did the reporters not laugh her into oblivion?"

Then we get this conclusion:

"So Hughes, with the Times' assistance, helped saved Bush's butt at a crucial moment."

The whole thing is apparently pasted wholesale from a blog that is linked at the bottom, but it does not otherwise have quotation marks.

I am removing this section for the stated reasons.76.121.187.193 (talk) 06:35, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I could go back into the edit history to read what you deleted, but what you concluded sounds reasonable to me. Rags (talk) 13:24, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lawyer?

The copyright page in her memoir 'Ten Minutes fm Normal' includes her book in categories, including "3. Women lawyers—United States—Biography". I have so far found no other corroboration. Bachelor's, SMU, is all I see, so far, though she may have gone back to school after Washington. Rags (talk) 15:15, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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