Talk:List of chess variants

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King of the Bridge is a “bizarre” chess variant with “cursed” rules, available on the Steam store here.

Should it be added? OzzyMuffin238 (talk) 19:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

“[citation needed]” is written where a proper citation is already provided

Several times in this article, “[citation needed]” is written where a citation is provided. For example, in the Hippodrome section, there is a citation, but “[citation needed]” is still written. The “[citation needed]” states, “‘The Chess Variant Pages’ is a user-contributed source, thus not demonstrating notability”; however, the website linked, chessvariants.com/solitare.dir/hippodrome.html, is an article on The Chess Variant Pages written by Andy Lewicki (the creator of Hippodrome). The site even states, “This page is written by the game’s inventor, Andy Lewicki.” Bobbingbob (talk) 20:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is a foundational principle of Wikipedia, and a minimal standard for what gets included. Self-promotional material is not considered notable. Without a notable source, it's likely that the entry will eventually be deleted. Dotyoyo (talk) 02:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FYI - I've just removed a few variants that were tagged with citation needed over a year ago. Dotyoyo (talk) 01:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Developed independently of chess'?

'Some of these games have developed independently while others are ancestors or relatives of modern chess.'

The lede of chess variant states, with a source, that 'A chess variant is a game related to, derived from, or inspired by chess'. Thus, if any of these games are neither ancestors nor relatives of modern chess, they are by definition not chess variants at all, and are thus irrelevant for this article, so they shouldn't even be included here. I suspect that this hinging is a way to satisfy the desire of Chinese and Japanese nationalists to claim that their chess variants are independent and also more ancient than all the other types. But even if this implausible claim could be sourced, it would just mean that their games don't belong here at all. As it stands, the claim is attributed to a whole book, without an indication of a page, making it almost impossible to verify - and to one from more than a hundred years ago to boot. 62.73.72.3 (talk) 18:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]