Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Academy of Football

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The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 14:00, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

The Academy of Football

Please note: Since this nomination was raised I have substantially rewritten the article. If you have already voted or read the article, it would be a good idea to check the new article over and possibly reconsider your vote. Thanks. --Mintie 02:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Appears to be an essay written in loving tribute to West Ham United F.C., rather than a proper encyclopedia article. tregoweth 20:51, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

Response; it is a fact that the club is known as The Academy of Football, and the players and appearances for England are a matter of public fact as well. Wikipedia would be lacking in its description of West Ham United if it did not refer to this. Nevertheless the "essay style" and the "loving tribute" comments have been considered and the two final paragraphs have been removed.

Redirect and merge to West Ham United F.C.. If it's just a nickname for West Ham United, then there's absolutely no reason this should ever be anything more than a redirect. --Un focused 05:03, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I say all it needs is a severe rewrite for NPOV and style. The "Academy" is not just a nickname for the club, but a concept in itself. The article already contains enough factual information of interest to keep it separate from the West Ham article, but does need quite a bit of work. I'm willing to do it. Also, I think the West Ham United F.C. article is too big to put something of this size in it. --Mintie 00:08, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC) (resigned) (see below)
- Questions: What other "The Academy of Football" is there? How many other clubs are known as "The Academy of Football"? Why can't the success of former players from this club be mentioned in the West Ham article? (I see some of that's been done already.) I still think a merge is in order, but will defer to the fans. --Un focused 00:39, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC
UPDATE: I have totally rewritten the article. It still needs a bit of copyedit and some statistical details ironed out, but it's an improvement. --Mintie 02:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
keep Antares33712 23:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Excellent since my "essay written in loving tribute" got its re-write. It was so hard to write NPOV so soon after 30/5/05 !! Please keep now Esprit 12:04, 8 JUN 2005 UTC

Thanks for your kind comment. :-) --Mintie 23:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thats ok glad someone put so much time in on it. I suspect you are a fan now so your ability to write NPOV so well is commendable Esprit 13:07, 9 JUN 2005 UTC

Yes, I'm a fan. I try to keep NPOV but it's difficult as you say. I ended up using a lot of weasel words though so it'll need more work. :-) --Mintie 04:24, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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