Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Marginated Tortoise/archive1
This is a translation of a German article, apparantly written by an expert. I found it to be very interesting and informative with clear prose. I have not worked on this article in any way. Eudyptes 00:47, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Basically support, though it could use a copyedit as there are some clumsy wordings, probably relics of the translation. Tuf-Kat 02:57, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)
- I have given the article a moderate copy-editing. I hope this helps. Eudyptes 03:39, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Support, but I'm the translator, so may not count. Mpolo 18:50, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)
Object. Good article, perhaps somewhat over-illustrated, but I have two (minor) objections: 1) I find it hard to believe that you only used a single reference from 1789. Even if you did, it would be good to add at least more recent word as a "further reading". 2) The units in the article (m, degrees Celsius etc.) should be linked. Jeronimo 21:43, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)- I translated from the German Wikipedia, as I said above, so for me, that was the actual "reference". I think that the Weblink is the primary reference for the article (but it's blocked by my proxy at work, so I can't check it to get more info). The units were linked until User:Neutrality unlinked them... Do we have a standard here? Mpolo 06:54, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC) -- I left a note for the article's author, but in the process saw that he is actually the author of one of the standard books on the subject. I will add this to the references section. Mpolo 07:09, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
- The original German author, Richard Mayer, appears to be the person who identified and named the subspecies Testudo marginata sarda. I doubt he needed many references. However, if you check is user page it looks like he has also written a book on European tortoises, which might be good for further reading if you are good with German. -- Solipsist 07:19, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I believe the standard is to wikilink the first mention of each unit. I can't see it in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), but I'm sure I've seen it somewhere else... -- ALoan (Talk) 11:15, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I linked the units (first use only) and added some "Further Reading" in English, along with two web pages in English and Richard Mayer's book. Hopefully this addresses the objections. Mpolo 12:25, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
- User:Neutrality reverted the unit links again, citing that they "look ugly" in the text. [for numbers, weights, and measures] would seem to support not wikilinking, or only wikilinking the "orders of magnitude" page (which I haven't seen done very often, personally). As this has now become a policy debate, might I suggest that you retract the objection on unit linking, we discuss the policy over at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers), and I promise to update the article to whatever is decided afterwards? Mpolo 07:26, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)
- I linked the units (first use only) and added some "Further Reading" in English, along with two web pages in English and Richard Mayer's book. Hopefully this addresses the objections. Mpolo 12:25, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
- I believe the standard is to wikilink the first mention of each unit. I can't see it in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers), but I'm sure I've seen it somewhere else... -- ALoan (Talk) 11:15, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- The original German author, Richard Mayer, appears to be the person who identified and named the subspecies Testudo marginata sarda. I doubt he needed many references. However, if you check is user page it looks like he has also written a book on European tortoises, which might be good for further reading if you are good with German. -- Solipsist 07:19, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I remember somebody else asked me to link units of measurement for a nomination here of my own, and I thought is was policy, and one I would agree with, since this encyclopedia is read by Americans who may not know metric units (and the other way round). As this is apparently not policy, I'll not object over it. Jeronimo 11:21, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I translated from the German Wikipedia, as I said above, so for me, that was the actual "reference". I think that the Weblink is the primary reference for the article (but it's blocked by my proxy at work, so I can't check it to get more info). The units were linked until User:Neutrality unlinked them... Do we have a standard here? Mpolo 06:54, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC) -- I left a note for the article's author, but in the process saw that he is actually the author of one of the standard books on the subject. I will add this to the references section. Mpolo 07:09, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
- Support - Extremely good article with minor clumsiness in wordings -- Sundar 07:05, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
- Support ZayZayEM 04:01, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Support - hardly earth-shattering, but interesting nonetheless. As well as some minor rewording to avoid clumsiness, it could do with some translations checking (there are comments in the source text), but these are just polishing. -- ALoan (Talk) 13:41, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)