Talk:Lost season 1

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January 6, 2007	Articles for deletion	No consensus
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Archive 1

New format

Since this article is taking on a new format, I have archived all of the previous discussions. The purpose of this "new" article is to create a synopsis of the general themes and major storylines throughout season 1. Details should be saved for individual episode articles. Lost is going to be a featured article on Tuesday, October 3, so we should work to make this article as polished as possible in the few days we have. Jtrost (^T | C | _#) 15:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the archiving! It's nice to have some room to breathe. :) --Elonka 15:29, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

population

The article says the group has "over 40" members at the end of the season. What's the exact number? Jack tells the pilot "at least 48", and soon afterward it seems to be exactly 48. Subtract Mars (died of infected wound), Joanna (drowned), Ethan (exposed as fake), Scott (beaten to death by Others), Boone (died of fall), and the four on the raft; add Aaron (Turniphead) — that makes exactly 40. Is there a rationale for another number? —Tamfang 01:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ethan Rom is the problem. Despite Gregg Nations at The Fuselage saying that he was not in the orginal 48 head count, in A Tale of Two Cities, it is pretty clear that Ethan got to the plane right away. Also, you forgot to count Arzt and we are counting the raft 4 as part of the survivors. --thedemonhog 05:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for Arzt. —Tamfang 08:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In "The Long Con" (2.13) Sawyer says "not much upside to scaring 46 people" — and this makes a bit of a mess of my count; six have been added since Exodus (Sawyer, Jin, Ana Lucia, Eko, Bernard, Libby) and one subtracted (Shannon), so the count after the raft sailed should be 41 not 39. Or 42 if he's not counting the perpetrator of the hoax attack. Or 43 if he's not counting Aaron. So, okay, "over 40" anyhow. —Tamfang 08:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

number of episodes

According to [1], the two parts of Live Together, Die Alone (season 2 finale) were first shown on the same night, but the two parts of Exodus (season 1 finale) were first shown a week apart. Therefore the precedent of Talk:List_of_Lost_episodes/Archive_3#Exodus:_Part_3_and_Live_Together.2C_Die_Alone_Part_2 does not apply, imho, to Exodus. On another hand, if Pilot and Exodus are split the count only reaches 24; 22 if they are not split. —Tamfang 18:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is http://epguides.com/Lost/ more verifiable than ABC.com? -- Wikipedical 21:21, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I know about that page, I still won't use it because of the obnoxious Flash interface. But anyway, it confirms that the two parts of Pilot and the two parts of Exodus were shown in separate weeks. —Tamfang 23:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

and vs &

The use of ampersands (&) in the table of writers is in conflict with the MOS. However, this article has a good reason for using ampersands instead of "and" in these cases - ampersands are specifically used by the Writer's Guild of America in writing credits to show where a group of writers worked together and are taking an equal share of the credit. In their terminology "and" reflects a separate group or individual working on the script. So basically thats why we use ampersands here and I think it gives more info to the reader to do so.--Opark 77 10:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, and the ampersands are all correct except for the Pilot. Jeffrey Lieber worked on the script separately from Abrams and Lindelof and should therefore be separated with 'and'. --DocNox (talk) 09:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The biggest ensemble cast?

"The initial season had fourteen major roles getting star billing, making it television's largest cast at the time of the series' debut." Not true. Degrassi: The Next Generation had thirteen star billed cast in 2001, this increased to fifteen in 2002, and twenty in 2003 and 2004. Perhaps "...making it U.S. television's largest cast..."? -- Matthew Edwards | talk | Contribs 05:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done, but in the future you can just do it yourself and explain in the edit summary. –thedemonhog talk • edits 05:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

It has been discussed here and here about a section of the Lost DVD releases article being merged into this article. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 06:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Episode Merges

I think all the Season 1 episodes except "Pilot (Lost)," "Walkabout (Lost)" and "Do No Harm (Lost)" should be merged, since they are just long, detailed summaries of the episode and have no "real-world" information such as production, reception, etc. Everyoneandeveryone (talk) 23:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was not expecting to hear this from someone who has never contributed "real-world" information before today. By merge, I assume you mean redirect. Last time that I checked, it was an acceptable practice to redirect episode articles that do not establish notability to season pages. If you do that, I am not going to stop you, but I am unsure of why you want to redirect the articles in the first place. –thedemonhog talk • edits 00:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the articles could be improved to establish notability, however most of us on the wikiproject have been focusing on other articles. I could go either way on the redirect because eventually we'll get around to them and they will be recreated then anyways. --Jackieboy87 (talk · contribs) 01:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I find episode guides to be handy, but not encyclopaedic. Given that there are already Lost-specific wikis that have episode guides (sometimes with production notes), I don't see any reason duplicate that here. Jobarts^-Talk 00:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It gets merged, deletionists say it's too long, and they 'trim the fat' until there's nothing left of the pages that were merged a week afterwards. --68.117.130.98 (talk) 05:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I guess it's not going to be merged, and I'm trying to help get "real-world" information for some articles. As long as someone gets around to it; I don't think an article of an episode's detailed plot summary is notable, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm bad at this stuff and just trying to help, so sorry if I make any mistakes.Everyoneandeveryone (talk) 22:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The articles are notable enought, some of them are good, and some can get better. However, redirecting (or merging) will not resolve this. --Fixman^{Praise me} 03:29, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not that it matters, but it actually kind of would solve the problem, as the problem would not exist anymore. –thedemonhog talk • edits 04:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dead links

I found a couple of dead links. These include this and this. Can someone please take care of these? I searched these sites and I could not find the appropriate pages for them. (SUDUSER)₈₅ 14:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DVD section

The entire DVD section is unsourced. Since this is a featured list, I thought it should be brought up to be fixed. Ophois (talk) 01:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spoiler

Please get rid of the spoiler in the last section about the time travel book Saywer is reading. It says "perhaps referring to future episodes", which is an unwanted hint that future episodes will feature time travel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.99.132.65 (talk) 21:44, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]