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Sister Rosetta Tharpe

How you gonna have an article about the Gibson SG and not mention Sister Rosetta Tharpe? One of you nerds needs to fix this — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.12.231.107 (talk) 14:54, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Small edit

I added Tony Iommi to notable SG users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.180.125.178 (talk • contribs)

I reverted your edit because he is already mentioned in the paragraph above. PJM 22:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, didn't read the paragraph above, my bad.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.180.125.178 (talk • contribs)

The small-person's guitar

Doesn't the SG have a reputation as being the guitar of choice for the smaller player? I know Angus Young and Tanya Donelly are both big fans of it, and both are small people. -- John Fader 16:08, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The SG does tend to be used by smaller people because it's much lighter in weight than the Les Paul, but still has the distinctive Gibson sound. The neck scale is also the smaller 24.75" scale (as opposed to 25.5" on Fenders and other guitars) which is also easier to play for people with smaller hands. -- Happydog

Well, a lightweight guitar is a big convenience for someone of any size. I mean would you rather (saying they sound the same) be playing 7 or 14 lb guitar? - TMFSG

Is the picure actually an Angus Young signature?

I thought the Angus Young signature model had "lightening bolt" style fretboard inlays. The photo looks like a standard red SG.

Damned if I know. It looks like a circa-'67 SG reissue, which would make it the right body and pickguard style for an Angus Young model. But ever since I redid these guitar articles, people have been trying to plug in stuff on celebrity signature models, which I personally think is teh ghey. Auto movil 19:20, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It has the vibrato, the devil headstock decal, and the etching of the devil on the vibrato - ergo, it is an Angus Young signature. -- Brother Dysk 13:30, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

It's an Angus Young. The Angus Young signature doesn't have lightning-bolt inlays. There was a variation on the SG made in the 1980's to appeal to the glam metal crowd that did have a lightning-bolt tailpiece, but it wasn't used by Young. The Angus Young Signature is indeed very similar to late 1960's SG's, which is how Angus wanted it. The only real difference between the Angus Young Signature and a 1960's SG is the inlay on the headstock and the etching on the vibrato. -- Happydog

There are two Angus Young signatures that I know of, one does have lightning bolt inlays, but the other does not. VoodooWitchDr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.125.242.236 (talk) 14:26, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lightning bolt inlays

There was never lightning bolt inlays on the Angus Young signature SG, but Angus did own a customized SG Standard that had those inlays. - TMFSG

lightning bolt inlays were only in a custom les paul.

Picture Change

I changed the picture to a Gibson SG Standard. The original picture was an Angus Young Signature SG. -TMFSG umm someone should just put a picture of a SG standard because i think the current picture is of a 61 reissue with tremolo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.186.64.155 (talk) 02:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable players

What about Angus Young? He used ONLY an SG! and in my opinion is a very influential guitarist :)

Now, I have don't know why we only have guitarists notable for their use of Gibson SGs. Shouldn't it be more like notable guitarists who use Gibson SGs? This new title will still avoid adding artistes who used SGs only a few times and keep out "fancruft", but will make the list be more like the strat's and tele's. The old title restricts the list to just those notable for using Gibson SGs, thus restricting the list to almost just Gibson's endorsees and signature players, making it biased, too. Ariedartin JECJY ^Talk 08:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Telecaster player list is extremely strict(has to have refs) This list should be just as strict. 142.179.103.183 13:05, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

that's because telecaster players tend to be cranky old men, and telecaster players who also maintain lists on wikipedia are too far gone to be helped —Preceding unsigned comment added by A plague of rainbows (talk • contribs) 21:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a very odd way to put it. Nevertheless, then the list is very lax, since almost all the artistes have no cites. But I'll help. Ariedartin JECJY ^Talk 13:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, even Eric Clapton used an SG, but not that often. Zimouskii —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zimouskii (talk • contribs) 12:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about Louis Bertignac - exclusively uses a Gibson SG Junior 1963 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bertignac ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:79E0:60:2:4987:460E:1E9B:B37E (talk) 11:03, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a fan of these fan-crufty lists of so-&-so-used-this-model-or-that-model because they're often unsubstantiated, & anyway they're often irrelevant. BUT ffs, OLLIE HALSALL.

duncanrmi (talk) 01:47, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of The Rolling Stones’ Mick Taylor in a Wikipedia page on the Gibson SG? No photo either?! A travesty. Look up the Stones Live 1972 on YouTube. One of the most underrated but important guitar players in your lifetime. (Gimmie Shelter from Philadelphia 1972, listen to it first). And hey, put his photo up once you read up on him. Thanks for your time!

External links / SG Special Faded

I personally do think that Gibson brand guitars are very overpriced these days, but do we really need to have a review bashing the SG Special Faded on this page as one of the six external links?

Guitar Hero II

Some should include the fact that this guitar is included as a pack in guitar controller in the PS2 Release of Guitar Hero II. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.19.181.153 (talk) 19:52, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

that's quite a deal then —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.194.181 (talk) 01:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SG = "Spanish Guitar"??

I was always under the impression that SG stood for "Solid Guitar" after Les Paul refused to put his name on it. Is "Spanish Guitar" some kind of joke/vandalism, or is there a story here I'm not aware of? KyuzoGator 20:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was vandalism. SG = solid guitar. 156.34.228.22 21:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had always heard that SG stood for "Standard Gibson". It would be nice if someone could post a definitive reference.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.163.98 (talk) 09:36, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whole article, no mention of sound

Shouldn't that be a major part of the article, what kind of sound it produces? (same with the major 'Gibson' article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.21.58 (talk) 23:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The only problem is that sound is a bit subjective, and sometimes dependent on the individual guitar and definitely on the amp. We'd need stuff that meets WP:RS and WP:V for sound quality info. I had thought about noting something about its good sustain, but that might be subjective too. Jim62sch^dissera! 17:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Gibson website it "The best selling Gibson".

Anyone want to add that? http://forums.gibson.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=221675&--Nothingbutgrains (talk) 05:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Too iffy. My personal pref is SG over Les Paul, but then I own an SG, so I suppose I'm biased. If we had the original source from Gibson, that would be worthwhile. Jim62sch^dissera! 17:23, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://www2.gibson.com/Gibson.aspx--Nothingbutgrains (talk) 07:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Appearances section

The first and last sentences of the "appearances" section (about Rossington and Jon Foreman) are out of place. Bubba73 ^{(You talkin' to me?)}, 02:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SG vs LP clarification

The last sentence of the SG vs LP section is misleading. Buckethead LP is not the only 24 fret LP, as mentioned previously in the article.Aremgee (talk) 17:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Daron Malakian

I removed the mention of Daron Malakian in the Notable SG users again. It's unsourced, for one. But beyond that, I don't think it's even true. A Google image search shows him playing some SGs, a Les Paul, a Flying V, a Fender Strat, a Jackson V, and a whole variety of Ibanez guitars. His signature guitar is even an Ibanez Iceman DMM1. Clearly, he plays a number of guitars. But I looked and I'm unable to find any reliable, third-party published sources saying that he's known for playing an SG. Woodroar (talk) 23:57, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"Gibson Les Paul"

Would anyone else like to chime in on the recent slow-moving edit war about the name? It's clear that Les Pauls and SGs are now considered separate models. But the sources indicate that what we now know as the SG was originally introduced as a remodeled Gibson Les Paul Standard, as it said that in the catalog and on the truss rod cover. It was only after Les Paul expressed his displeasure at the body shape and relative lack of wood that it was renamed the SG. Ideas? Woodroar (talk) 23:38, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It might come down to what the catalogs and advertisements of the era say. It is clear the guitar did say "Les Paul." Sometimes it is found on a small plate between the neck and the neck pickup, too. I've never seen any catalogs from that time. But here is an advertisement from the era with Les Paul and Mary Ford on it, which mentions "the Les Paul guitars." https://forgottenguitar.com/2015/11/11/1075/ No mention of "Les Paul SG." (Or even "SG.") Mark Froelich (talk) 00:35, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"this guy clearly doesn't" edit

SolarFlash I will make allowances for the fact you're Canadian... "this guy" IS Bernard Sumner & he does play an SG New Order - Regret Live in Glasgow Barnie is the SG guitarist behind; Joy Division, New Order & Electronic, so perhaps trade your Celine Dion collection up to a Manchester band (take your pick) All in good humour BTW & leave as is as you probably caught my faceplate... --Steve Bowen 16:48, 21 June 2020 (UTC) :oD

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