Talk:GROM Military Unit

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	European military history task force
	Polish military history task force

Poland Mid‑importance

	Poland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Poland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Poland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PolandWikipedia:WikiProject PolandTemplate:WikiProject PolandPoland articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Underwater diving Low‑importance

	Underwater diving portal This article is part of WikiProject Underwater diving, an effort to create, expand, organize, and improve Underwater diving-related articles to a feature-quality standard, and to comprehensively cover the topic with quality encyclopedic articles.Underwater divingWikipedia:WikiProject Underwater divingTemplate:WikiProject Underwater divingUnderwater diving articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

BOA

Does anybody know about BOA? They are trained by GROM and do more Urban counter terrorism. I think they should hget their own page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachelskit (talk • contribs) 02:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (military units)

Forgive the spam, but I'm making a scattershot announcement to try to attract people with international interests to help forge some naming conventions. A draft is now available at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (military units), and we need feedback on the talk page. Thanks. — B.Bryant 00:40, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Slawomir Petelicki.jpg

Image:Slawomir Petelicki.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 05:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

mispelling

6-24-2007* Fixed the mispelling of organization from previous 'organisation'

not mispelling

05-25-2008* See spelling differences between British English, and American English - article has been written by someone from Poland, and in Poland British English is indisputably more popular.

Deeper Translation Need

I think we should translate names such like "Armia Krajowa" to "National Army" or "Polish National Army" in this way Polish National Army, (leaving original wiki-link to polish origin) ppl if click on it will see article about Armia Krajowa.

"Armia Krajowa" is most often translated to English as "Home Army".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seba65534 (talk • contribs) 11:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now ppl can see original full name in Polish, and next translated full name in English, I think we should translate Cichociemni to Silent&Dark and Polish National Army, because Polish original names are now dubled.

In my opinion people who don't know Polish, don't understand what "Cichociemni" name means, some of ppl will click and find out in next article what this name means, but majority skip it.

The link, ostensibly to the Czech Special Forces unit Urna instead directs to a discussion of Hinduism. Perhaps this link can be fixed/a page on the Czech Urna added? Dpenn89 (talk) 15:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are some diplomatic issues with the translation of the Armia Krajowa with regard to its relationship with the Polish Government in Exile, and very prickly internal Polish diplomatic issues with regard to the early Cold War period and what was arguably the period of the most brutal Communist occupation. The British "Home Army" has traditionally been a reserve force, while the Polish AK was both a direct combat force and an active underground resistance group and armed wing of a government which had disputed diplomatic recognition. In some sense, the use of the term "Home Army" would only be partially descriptive, whereas its function was in many regards not entirely different from the IRA, albeit the polar opposite with regards to Marxism, but its history and function is very difficult to translate into English without misleading labels. Calling it a "People's army" would have communistic overtones, calling it a "Home Army" would denote a reservist/support status among much of the English speaking world, and even the word "Krajowa" is most likely to be mispronounced or awkward to say by most native speakers of English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.222.193 (talk) 10:09, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comparable units

Sry but I think the german KSK (Kommando Spezial Kräfte) is also or even more comparable to the GROM. The GSG-9 is a police unit and has no military role.--78.43.38.197 (talk) 20:38, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

B-class review

This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 03:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is the laundry list of similar units needed

The list of similar units is getting a little long and to be honest is really a waste of space/time. Why not just include a link to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Counter-terrorist_organizations

or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_special_forces_units

Updating one central list seems like a better use of editor resources and it also makes it easier for readers of the article. DouglasCalvert (talk) 01:33, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Equipment

I notice that the equipment section has several * inserted in it but it doesn't co-ordinate to any kind of note. Maybe I'm just not good with grammar but shouldn't it collaret to a note? Thanks! Hyperborrean22 09:10, 14 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.17.198.46 (talk)

GROM requires a more accurate article

GROM is a world-class anti-terrorism unit- often trained in the West, yes. But they bring a knowledge to their craft that is uniquely uniquely Poland. What a beautiful and intelligent nation.

GROM requires a more accurate article

GROM is a world-class anti-terrorism unit- often trained in the West, yes. But they bring a knowledge to their craft that is uniquely uniquely Poland. What a beautiful and intelligent nation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dosware (talk • contribs) 16:47, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NATO liaisons

The article mentions working with NATO partners in training, but Ireland and Sweden are not now, nor have ever been, part of NATO.

Kochamanita (talk) 16:11, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GROM abbreviation meaning

GROM, which stands for Grupa Realizacji Operacji Most (English: Group for the Implementation of the Operation Bridge).

That's wrong. GROM stands for "Reagowania Operacyjno-Manewrowego" (Operational Response Group). It can be found on official web page: http://www.grom.wp.mil.pl/en/21.html (PL: http://www.grom.wp.mil.pl/pl/5.html).

Operation Bridge has nothing to do with the name. In fact, Operation Simoom (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Simoom ) has bigger impact here, because as a bonus reward, US helped with creating GROM.

-- Paul 62.179.9.14 (talk) 17:28, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Surgeons

GROM operators gained the nickname of "The Surgeons" due to their extensive medical training and knowledge and their surgical ability to coordinate and execute special operations

Is there any source which confirms that it is true? I think it is wrong. In Polish an "operator" means the surgeon who is performing a surgery (medical procedure). Special military units started to use the word "operator" in the same manner it is used by other SMU. And it is probably the only reason why anyone names GROM as "surgeons". I didn't see anyone using this nickname in Poland Spectralos (talk) 14:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Equipment

is there any proof of using SiG MPX by GROM? From what I know GROM still use HK MP5, and SiGs became the standard weapon for another polish SOF called JW FORMOZA (https://defence24.pl/sily-zbrojne/karabinki-sig-sauera-wkraczaja-do-formozy) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.22.166.70 (talk) 06:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Name translation

"Home Of Army Silent Unseen Paratroopers" doesn't seem to be an accurate translation of the original Polish name, rather it should be "Silent Unseen Paratroopers of the Home Army" Liquid Architecture (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]